October 21, 2004

I really enjoyed the movieTo Live. I think it is interesting to look at communism from one person or family's experience because it helps you to grasp how the changes actually effect people instead of society at large. One thing that seeing the films together made me wonder was how large the difference in true belief seemed from one generation to the next. The generation after revolution saw communism much differently than those who lived through it because of propaganda. It seemed that in To Live many people fell into support by chance and didnt really believe the ideal so much.... they were just trying to survive and protect their families. I wonder what pecentage of the first communists who experienced the revolution actually believed in its ideals.

Posted by megan at October 21, 2004 08:00 AM
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I would guess, and this is nothing more than an educated guess based on my knowledge of other Communist societies and the movies, that at the beginning a pretty good number believed in the revolutionary ideals because it appealed to the vast majority of the population (the working class). But, as time went on, I think even these people realized that Communism was not the solution to their problems.

Posted by: carlos at October 21, 2004 09:39 PM

Plus, people tend to support somewhat popular revolutions because they are just that: popular. It is always fun to join the bandwagon, especially when it involves breaking stuff and killing people for no reason at all. I think that for this reason, and the idealist lies that the people were so aptly listening to, they were pretty into the party message. Only after years of rampant violence and ambiguous party doctrine do people have some idea that they are being used on the whims of the leaders.

Posted by: Dan McMenamin at October 22, 2004 02:54 PM

I would like to think that a large percentage of those who took on the ideals of socialism in China only did so because they had to conform so as to not look like a reactionary or an enemy to the cause. One thing is true about socialism, and it is that if everyone is not in support of the system its efficacy will never be reached or realized. In "Morning Sun" some members of the Red Guard who went on the long marches traversing the country said that even though socialism had been in place for a long time now, there were still large amounts of poor people who were not seeing any of the benefits that are supposed to accompany socialist life. The standard of living for the poor was supposed to improve significantly and this makes it easy to see why the large amounts of poor people would want to conform to the socialist maxim. What is a converted socialist society supposed to think when there are no returns to their investment in socialism? This is why, historically, socialism has never prospered.

--Bobby

Posted by: Bob Bitterman at October 22, 2004 03:05 PM